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Dick
Schaal clowns through some lens
practice on the "Rhoda" set with his
wife, Valerie Harper. He plays
a macho photographer on a
neighboring set where "Phyllis," the
new Mary Tyler Moore spin-off, is
taping. |

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Valerie
and Dick hold hands in her dressing
room. The sampler was a
pre-"Rhoda" gift from a
fingers-crossed friend. |
Photos: Terry O'Neill
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TV sitcoms of course make strange
bedfellows: who would have thought to
match up B-movie journeyman Carroll
O'Connor with Broadway (even
Shakespearean) headliner Jean Stapleton? Or standup comic Bob Newhart
with fading starlet Suzanne Pleshette?
Now television seems to be making
bedfellows into strangers in the case
of Valerie Harper and Dick Schaal. She
is entering her second season as star
of Rhoda. Her husband debuts as Cloris Leachman's pal in the new season's
Phyllis, another spinoff of the Mary
Tyler Moore Show, and runs his own
theater company on weekend nights.
They both have scripts to study work-day evenings. And so it has become
increasingly difficult for them to get together alone. "We have to call each
other a lot," says Dick. "But we finally
met the other night at about 11:30 and
sat outside with the pool lights on,
talking for an hour and a half. It was
the longest talk we'd had in a month. It
was nice seeing her." Schaal sounds as if he is recalling some distant college
romance. Valerie and Dick have been
happily married for 11 years, but won't
have a weekday off together until
Christmas.
"It's a unique marriage-Valerie and
Dick are best friends first, then husband and
wife," says a Rhoda producer, Charlotte Brown. "They are two
complete individuals who happen to be
married. They don't ever need to take
on the other's identity." They certainly
are regarded as separate entities on
the old Mack Sennett lot in Hollywood,
now humming with six MTM productions, where they work three sound
stages apart. (Their two shows will run
back to back on Monday night starting
this week.) "Valerie's the second
major star on the lot," notes another
colleague (MTM herself being first),
"and Dick's the third co-star in a new
series that might or might not make it.
They are treated as such. There's a
definite caste system around here and
no place in it for the 'husband of the
star.' " Schaal, however, is likely to
move up in the pecking order if Phyllis
becomes the ratings hit predicted.
There was a lot more togetherness
when the two were on their way up.
They met in 1964 when the legendary
Second City revue, with Schaal aboard, moved
from Chicago to New York. Valerie, a plump Broadway chorine,
joined the cast and married Dick a few
months later. She is now 34; Dick won't
say-"it would ruin my casting
chances"-but he is at least 10 years
older. "He was my mentor," Valerie
says. "He totally brought me into acting. He's read me lines for years and
been nothing but supportive. He absolutely built the character of Rhoda with
me. I always thought Dick was the
brains of the operation, but he kept me
from 'daddifying' him. He gives me unbelievable room. He told me, 'l can't
be you too. I have enough trouble
being me.' "
Valerie was born in Suffern, N.Y. to
Catholic parents, followed her nomadic
salesman father all over America, but
stopped now and then to take dancing
lessons at her mother's insistence.
"I used to do a sexy In a Persian Market
in a fake leopard leotard with bare midriff " she recalls wistfully. At 15 she
was dancing specialty numbers at Radio City, then joined a long chorus line
of musicals. One of them, Li'l Abner,
took her to Hollywood in 1958, and
there she came down with hepatitis. A
doctor prescribed sweets and Valerie
puffed up to the 150-pound schlepper
who became ultra-thin Mary Tyler
Moore's frumpish foil 10 hardworking
years later. Down to 122 now, thanks to
Weight-Watchers, Valerie guards her
slim new image-even bankrolls a
yoga class on the Rhoda set.
Schaal (pronounced "Shawl") was
born and grew up in Chicago, worked
as a commercial artist (he's a photographer in
Phyllis), builder and window dresser-Rhoda's TV
job. Later, studying at Northwestern, he got into
theatricals. Second City, New York and
Valerie followed that. For awhile, they
co-hosted a low-budget daytime talk
show called The New Yorkers.
Then, when they moved to Hollywood,
Dick started a theater company, Children of Paradise, which today includes
21-year-old Wendy, Dick's daughter by
a previous marriage, whom he and
Valerie have raised since she was 14.
Apart from Dick's new job ("I really
like having to be someplace at 9:30 every morning"), there have been other
changes in the Harper-Schaal life-style. For one, Val, who is adored by
most of her colleagues, has shown a
few flashes of previously unseen
star temperament. This summer she
refused to sign a new Rhoda contract
until her salary was increased $2,000 to
$17,000 for each of 22 episodes. She
demanded that her TV mother, Nancy
Walker, be given her own dressing room. And, in
Valerie's own, she strongly suggested a stereo be installed. The
producers capitulated on Aug. 22,
her 34th birthday.
Another change is the arrival of Valerie's 15-year-old nephew, Victor, her
sister Leah's child, to live with her
and Dick in their eight-room ranch
house in Westwood Village. Victor and
Dick decided on the arrangement without Val's knowledge, but she's cool-and is even wondering about a baby
of her own. "I used to go into a panic
when my period was late," she says.
"But if I got pregnant tomorrow it'd be
okay."
Nothing has affected Valerie and Dick so much as
their enthusiastic acceptance, along with 50,000 other
believers, of the pop-philosophy program of onetime encyclopedia sales-man Werner Erhart (ne Jack Rosenberg). Two ego-bending $250 weekend
marathons of EST (for Erhart Seminar
Training) with one of Erhart's eight
"trainers," and a third with The Master
himself, Val and Dick say, have revolutionized their lives. Dick now finds
himself "the best company I've
ever been in my life-infinitely more
human." His wife (who first thought it
was "just more of that L.A. booga-boo-ga, like astrology and tarot") claims
that EST has taken "the effort, sweat
and strain out of what I do. I can handle the daily upsets better. I used to get
some ego thing out of saying I wasn't a
star, just an actress. Forget it. I'm a
star. I wanted it, I worked for it, I got it.
Werner helped me take the lie out of
what I was doing."
Whatever else, EST seems to have
reconciled Valerie and Dick to their
newly imposed separate bliss, which
the gossip columns and fan mags have
managed to build into a split. It doesn't
seem likely. "Divorce is virtually out
of the question," says Dick. "Val and I
couldn't get together long enough to
go over the terms."
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